Coulter's actions a bit extreme
The understated headline is in reference to some poor kid who was arrested for posing a rather indelicate question to the conservative pundit:
I was wondering that myself. While the kid was a bit rude, he was also within his First Amendment rights, and there were no grounds for his arrest. Eugene Volokh has a more detailed analysis:
Update: A commenter makes the point that Coulter had nothing to do with the arrest, and that the title of this post implies that she did. I suppose that that is true, however the title is supposed to be a bit of a double entendre comparing the speakers viewpoint with the actions taken by police, as well as a personal commentary about which speaker (the questioner or Coulter) offends me more. I suppose it's really only a single entendre given that fact, so take it for what it's worth. But the commenter is correct. The decision to arrest was made by the police, and not by Coulter.
The kid was arrested. Ace asks:You say that you believe in the sanctity of marriage,' said Ajai Raj, an English sophomore. 'How do you feel about marriages where the man does nothing but fuck his wife up the ass?'
Now, I can understand removing the student and even banning him from future events. But arresting him? For what? The police report says he made gestures simulating masturbation as he went back to his seat, but still, that's enough for an arrest? I'm on board with arresting the d-bag that throws a pie at this girl, that's fine, that's assault. But this is nuttier than squirrel turds.
I was wondering that myself. While the kid was a bit rude, he was also within his First Amendment rights, and there were no grounds for his arrest. Eugene Volokh has a more detailed analysis:
The student is not being prosecuted for heckling, in the sense of shouting things while the speaker was speaking; content-neutral heckling bans, I think, would be quite constitutional if properly drafted, but that isn't involved here. Rather, he's being prosecuted for asking "You say that you believe in the sanctity of marriage . . . . How do you feel about marriages where the man does nothing but fuck his wife up the ass?," and then going back to his seat while "making a repeated motion with his right arm and hand, which was cupped in a circular shape, towards his crotch area simulating masturbation." This, the affidavit says, was "disorderly conduct" under Texas law, which is to say "abusive, profane, and vulgar language and obscene gesture," and it's unprotected because it supposedly "incited an imminent breach of the peace of the peace within the crowd," by provoking some of the audience to scream, shout, and boo, and by leading "a few" of Coulter's supporters to "st[an]d up as if to chase down" the questioner.Read the whole thing.
But such speech, even if vulgar, is constitutionally protected unless it contains "personally abusive epithets which, when addressed to the ordinary citizen, are, as a matter of common knowledge, inherently likely to provoke violent reaction." See Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971); Duran v. Furr's Supermarkets, Inc., 921 S.W.2d 778 (Tex. App. 1996).
Simply getting the crowd riled up doesn't make the speech unprotected. Simply saying offensive things to Coulter doesn't make the speech unprotected. If the student had personally called her some epithet, then the matter might have been different. But just asking a rude question that includes a profanity (but not one used to describe Coulter) is not unprotected, and neither is making sexually suggestive gestures (again, when they didn't seem to be personal insults of Coulter).
Update: A commenter makes the point that Coulter had nothing to do with the arrest, and that the title of this post implies that she did. I suppose that that is true, however the title is supposed to be a bit of a double entendre comparing the speakers viewpoint with the actions taken by police, as well as a personal commentary about which speaker (the questioner or Coulter) offends me more. I suppose it's really only a single entendre given that fact, so take it for what it's worth. But the commenter is correct. The decision to arrest was made by the police, and not by Coulter.

2 Comments:
You attribute to Coulter what the campus police did. Her Fox interview makes it plain that she did not mind the question
COLMES: No, but it was an obscene question. It was totally out of order. But why was he escorted out though? Why was he arrested?
COULTER: I don't know. I don't work for campus police. And I like question-and-answer. And like I said, compared to the questions the other liberals were asking, it was no worse than the other ones.
She does want the pie thrower prosecuted.
That said, the guy hould have been escorted from the premises. Children were there. He meant harm. Obscenity is not protected by the First Amendment in all circumstances.
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DonSurber, at 9:12 AM
The title, more than implying that COulter was responsible, is meant to be a pun, in that Ann coulter is more than a little extreme. It's supposed to be funny, and if Coulter doesn't feel that the guy should have been arrested, more power to her.
I don't believe that the question was obscene and I don't think it meets the legal definition for obscenity, and yes he should have been removed. But not arrested. Which was the point.
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PaulNoonan, at 9:37 AM
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