The Electric Commentary

Sunday, October 23, 2005

The Packers are now officially a debacle.

Terrible. Just terrible. Poor tackling (Nick Barnett is a disaster. He's truly awful). Massive injury problems. Bad special teams. Basically out of the running after 7 weeks in the worst division in football. Stick a fork in the Pack, they're done.

At least we have the Badgers.

20 Comments:

  • Real Packer fans will be wearing their colors today. Part of the team charm is the loyalty. Win or lose.

    You probably just remember the winning seasons.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:10 AM  

  • Wow, are you a jackass. Real fans will realize when there is a problem with the team and demand change.

    You're proud of that effort yesterday?! Seriously? If you want to put up with consistently bad play from YOUR team, maybe you should just go and cheer on the Cubs.

    Being a fan does not mean being uncritical. I watch every game, and I always have, and I always hope that they do well. That does not change the fact that this team is very, very bad.

    By Blogger PaulNoonan, at 8:34 AM  

  • Honestly, can people still believe this team has a chance? If Green is out 2-4 weeks, and our WR's are depleted, what's going to hold up? Favre may have to sit back and take it on the chin this season.

    I will root for the team all season, but I'm being realistic. The next 5 games may break a lot of hearts in Packer fans.

    Paul may need to revise his Packer drinking game rules to account for the new players.

    By Anonymous Steve, at 9:02 AM  

  • Lol. Demand change?
    Why don't you get out there and show them how to play hotstuff?

    You can be critical and loyal without resorting to namecalling taunts and accusing someone of rooting for the Cubs.

    Look into your Packer backer history. Real fans are wearing green today and supporting the hometeam, despite ugly play. Looks like a little of your Wisconsin roots gets lost in the big city culture, eh Paullie Boy?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:14 AM  

  • Excuse me? You started the namecalling by refering to me as "not a real Packer fan." Those are fighting words.

    Real fans watch, whether the team is bad or not. Acting happy and proud about a bad team is moronic. It's a mindset I'll never understand.

    By Blogger PaulNoonan, at 11:39 AM  

  • Real fans do more than watch.

    Visit any elemenatary school today, where the kids are wearing Packers colors. Are they "happy and proud" or just true-green supporters, win or lose?

    I know. You are one of those die-hard fans, when they are winning. It's a true fan who knows what to do when they are losing.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:12 PM  

  • and this ain't it:

    Stick a fork in the Pack, they're done.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:13 PM  

  • So you think they're still alive then? At 1-5 with the toughest part of their schedule remaining, after having lost to one of the 5 worst teams in football, having lost 2 of their top 3 WRs, their top 2 RBs, with their best LB constantly dinged up, with two non-NFL caliber guards playing, you think they're still alive for anything but a high draft pick?

    There's being supportive and then there is living in fantasy land. I prefer to deal with the real world. And in the real world, the Packers are terrible.

    By Blogger PaulNoonan, at 1:43 PM  

  • "And in the real world, the Packers are terrible."

    Paul, you are missing the point. Deliberately? Most people could have told you the above after the pre-season. Just because you're slowly coming around doesn't mean you say shit like "Stick a fork in the Pack, they're done."

    Being a true fan does not mean you think your team is heading for the Super Bowl every year. It means you stick with them through thick or thin though, and keep your loyalties. You must have been spoiled by success in recent years.

    Part of the art of being a true fan is knowing how to be a good loser. Think of it like marriage -- you take the good, you take the bad. It doesn't mean denying reality, just means you stick through good seasons and bad. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, concentrate on the rays of light. Or find another team to root for, just stay off the bandwagon when they're winning then.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:46 PM  

  • If you were a real fan, losing would piss you off. What have I written that has indicated that I'm giving up cheering for the Packers? I watch every game, I go to two games a year, and I've forgotten more about the Packers (and football in general) than most people have ever known.

    When you're a true fan, losing affects you. if you just show up the next day with a dopey grin on your face, in your green hoodie and zoobas, you're just some poseur who may as well cheer for everyone.

    Never mind. You're not even on the same level of fandom that I am. When you catch up, and losing starts affecting you, and winning makes you happy, then we can have a rationale, but very boring discussion. until then it's like I'm talking to a green and gold parrot.

    And I correctly predicted a terrible season in the preseason already:

    http://electriccommentary.blogspot.com/2005/09/nfl-preview-part-8-nfc-north.html

    I'm also correct. They are done. They're 1-5, they have no healthy players, and they didn't sign Andre Davis when they had the chance.

    By Blogger PaulNoonan, at 4:22 PM  

  • Note that I also wrote the definitive Packer drinking game, as Steve pointed out above. Only a true fan would do such a thing.

    http://electriccommentary.blogspot.com/2005/10/so-packers-suck.html

    And as Steve points out, it definitely needs revision.

    By Blogger PaulNoonan, at 5:03 PM  

  • Yeah, I suppose you've got a point. Sorry about that.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:12 PM  

  • I think the truth of the matter is that you can be realistic about how good the team is and still be a real fan by continuing to watch the games and cheer for the team. I know Paul & that is certainly the case with him. Otherwise the criteria for being a real fan is like saying to love ice-cream you have to be unwilling to admit that it has a lot of calories.

    Sadly, I had to miss this tragedy (4th game in over 10 years I've missed)r. That said, we've lost a lot of close games because of poor field goal kicking and a couple bad calls. Unfortunately, they were to bad teams who a good team would beat anyway. Plus injuries have been huge.

    By Anonymous Scott, at 8:38 PM  

  • I meant "whom".

    By Anonymous Scott, at 8:39 PM  

  • Having read about the game now I see we lost after losing 3 important starters to injury (Green, Turd, Collins), which is a pretty good excuse.
    Unfortunately we have now lost our top 2 RB's and 3 of our top 4 WR's. This leaves us in the position of having to start guys who were the worst guy at their position on the roster at the end of training camp and devote significant playing time to guys who couldn't even make an NFL roster. (Worse yet, neither Fischer or Chatham made the roster based on potential nor are they suited to being starters, instead Chatham is a punt returner and Fischer is a 3rd down back).

    If the Packer offense ranks in the top half of the the NFL this year they should immediately build a Colossus sized statue of Favre to stand over the Hall of Fame in Canton. He has only 3 good players left on offense. (Driver, Tauscher, Clifton). Currently they are 17th.

    By Anonymous scott, at 9:08 PM  

  • This is some fucking site, in which the author calls his readers jackasses. Nice. Must be from New York or Chicago...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:19 PM  

  • Wauwatosa, WI.

    So you deny that that guy was a jackass? Care to support your assertion?

    By Blogger PaulNoonan, at 1:28 PM  

  • I'm sorry, I was being a jackass.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:40 PM  

  • Apology accepted.

    By Blogger PaulNoonan, at 1:48 PM  

  • What makes this season even worse is Favre has been playing out of his mind the last few weeks...even with all the injuries.

    The O-Line has not giving up too many sacks, but the run blocking has been atrocious. Unfortunately, with Green and Davenport gone for the season, we have even less of a running game, so teams can tee off when Favre goes back to pass. The play action pass just will not work anymore. The rest of the season is not going to be pretty, but I will continue to watch and hope some of these younger players start improving.

    Great blog, by the way...nice mix of topics

    By Blogger Mike, at 3:25 PM  

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