The Electric Commentary

Wednesday, July 19, 2006

Veto Virginity Gone Forever

The President finally vetoed something:

WASHINGTON -- The White House is gearing up today for President Bush's first veto in over five years as president, as he prepares to sign a veto message overturning a bill authorizing federal funding for new lines of embryonic stem cell research.

The president will veto the bill today before making a public appearance in the East Room of the White House with several families who have "adopted'' embryos and given birth to them — so-called "snowflakes.''

While I'm against federal funding in general, I'm in favor of living as long as is humanly possible, and so if we are going to have federal funding for something, I'm in favor of using it for this. That said, the emotional pandering going on over this vote is just awful. "Snowflakes?!"

Frozen embryos are not people. Yet. They may become people, as was the case with these children, but they are not people as of this moment, and we should not treat non-people like we treat people. Actual people will be hurt in the future (probably) by restrictions on stem cell research. Why do I say that they are not people? Because they don't have brains. (And because they can be frozen, thawed, and still used. Freezing an actual person will kill the person). If you have no brain activity, you are not alive.

This is not like abortion, where people want to draw some uncomfortable, arbitrary line. Calling a frozen embryo a person is an insult to people everywhere.

More here.


  • "Calling a frozen embryo a person is an insult to people everywhere."

    Not to mention calling a person a "snowflake". Another lowpoint in pander-governing.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:33 PM  

  • If Bush would take the intelectually coherent next step and propose banning in vitro fertilization, his position would have some coherence. By Bush's definition of "destroying human life," it's basically impossible to undergo IVF without destroying human life. But IVF is increasingly popular among upper-class white suburbanites, so there's approximately zero chance that the Republican establishment will ever speak out against it.

    By Blogger MDS, at 9:45 AM  

  • So it's okay to throw embryos out, but not okay to do research on some that would be thrown out? Yes, mds, intellectual coherence is lacking here.

    Snowflake?! Trying to make human babies sound more valuable by naming them after overabundant, tiny, worthless inanimate objects? Uh, kind of dehumanizes them to me, but then again, I'm not an idiot.

    By Blogger Scott H, at 10:36 AM  

  • Has anyone ever inspected every snowflake ever? I bet there were a few that were identical, who would know?

    Anyway, I think you actually can freeze people and thaw them out, and I'm not talking about that Mel Gibson movie. During this time they are clinically dead, with no heart rate, breathing or brain activity (I'm sure of the first two, maybe they do have brain activity but I don't think so). It is pretty rare that people don't die, but not so rare that there aren't a bunch of documented cases of it happening to mountian climbers and Korean war soldiers. Then you just thaw them out and they are fine.

    By Anonymous Phil, at 4:52 PM  

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